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Hi Ron! Just saw you are from New Plymouth. We live in Marsing. You should come out to the Payette A&W Cruise sometime. Sept. 7th is this years...I'll be playing with The Fabulous Chancellors there. Good to see another Idahoan on Broadjam!!
Thank you Randy. I'll try and make it to the Cruise, and listen to you guys.
Ron, Appreciate your review of "Semi-Sweet". It actually received some nice responses from some Nashville folks a while back. The lyrics are posted on my Bjam site. Bill
Ron thanks for the review of my vintage song country christians. Mrs Kate
Hey Ron, Thanks of the nice review of my song, "A Heartbeat Away"> This is the instrumental version. I always mix an instrumental version fro my clients who need instrumentals. That said, there IS a version with lyrics at my site. Stop by, I think you will really enjoy them. It was recently #1 Country-REligious at Broadjam. Again, the song is entitled, "A Heartbeat Away". Best to you! Chet Nichols
I MADE MY 25th year sober today--YAY!--cheers--joe.----been waiting for this one for a long while!
Happy anniversary. :-0
Way to go Joe!
Congrats Joe! How have you been? Haven't talked to you in a while. How all's well! Buc
A big milestone for you Joe. Keep positive.
Well done mate DeDe let us know you had an operation as well all the best to you and a speedy recovery Eric
thanxs for the nice review of my song--I CAN'T DO THIS DANCE ANYMORE---cheers--joe.
Hi Adam, Sorry I haven't responded to your songs in a while. A lot has been going on these past months. I think you have what it takes to make it in the music industry, the music is great and your personality and ambition are exciting. Rock your way to the top!! Silvertone is a great idea.
Thank you for reviewing "Take a chance". I appreciate your views on my song and I will use them to improve my skills. Take care and I look forward to more reviews.
I don't understand lap dancing clubs. If I wanted a woman to take all my money and sexually frustrate me I'd stay at home!!!!
I can relate to that!
You have been pretty quiet on here lately, how are things going?
Hi Ron, been really busy matey, got 5 projects on the go at the moment, one being a re work thats become a cool collab; 4 new tunes a coming once I get a bit of time to work on them, and breaking in a mate from work to come and play some guitar on one of them called Heartbreak Train, so we can mix up 2 different playing styles. Gone really Modern Country at the moment which is cool!!! Hows things with you??
Oh and poorly children as well !!!!
Things are going good for me, I am working on a rework as well. I am trying to do this one on my own but I am not a lead guitarist so I am learning the pentatonic scales and see if I can add a little spice to things. Good to hear you are working on some new material, I look forward to hearing them. Take care and I hope your children are doing better!
Thanks matey, will do
A year and a half, countless short-lists and charting on Broadjam. Still no return what-so-ever on my investment. I can barely recall ever seeing an opportunity get filled by a Broadjam member. Just short-list, then ages later, provider has listened, thank you very much. Almost ready to let it go the way of our Taxi account.
I would probably have spent near on that by now at a guess.
I'm starting to think that the providers only bother with Broadjam for the financial incentive and don't ever 'really' consider songs on some posts.
are you guys certain, i see a lot of artists accomplishments on here placed with tv/film and adds..two of my songs were selected for cable show licensing, i never got the huge payout commercial deals but those are pretty tough to get, i guess I just have to keep plugging until i get that big pay day!! lol
We've been selected for 'cue sheets' for cable. First couple, turned them down cause they didn't allow us the ability to remove our music in future if we wanted. Fox one recently, but nothing come of being selected. We got asked if we had a filmclip for the particular song, we said no but we could film one if needed. Never heard from them again.
I'm not saying NOBODY benefits on here 3 SP don't get me wrong .. Many do .. But in the opportunities we apply for, very rarely see anyone successful.
hey guys what about commercials, are those easier for independents to get instead of big films? I haven't gotten any yet but i don't want to keep wasting my precious dollars trying if it's highly impossible :(
oh that sounds much better, sounds competitive but more profitable and an easier reach than big film, thanks Todd appreciate it!!!!
How do you find it with Taxi, EOTS? I've been told about that one too, do they let you pay monthly like Broadjam or just a yearly payment? have you had success on that one?
It takes money to make money. The little guys don't stand a chance against the corporations.
So if we don't stand a chance against the huge Corporation why make us pay 5.00 and 10.00 when they know the big payout commercials is just going to go to them. Is it to sell us a dream? so we keep paying hoping to land one and in return keep making broadjam richer and richer? Maybe that's something to think about.
Todd, I agree with face to face meetings, But the "Big Wigs" don't want to take the time to meet someone they don't know and actually give them a shot at being a great talent. I'm not speaking about myself, I'm not near the talent You or a lot of individuals or groups on here are. I think I write good lyrics but so does most everyone on here. I have to have my songs recorded in a studio which is not cheap hence " it takes money to make money. I would rather buy music from artists on broadjam than from a lot of the so called professionals on the radio, but I don't subscribe to credit cards so I am limited on what I can do online.
Therese, Taxi is very similar to the Broadjam except that most of the entries are screen and critiqued by taxi staff members before they ever reach the opportunity provider. The problem I found was that I would receive a critique from a particular taxi staff member, that (regardless of the specifics of the opportunity) would reject you on very flimsy and subjective reasons. Such as for example with some of our lyrics 'When I think of candle, I see serenity and happiness not loss and sadness'. This is fair enough, except that you would then receive the same taxi staff member reviewing you on several other opportunities in the same genre giving the exact same critique. When the staff member has already determined in their mind that they don't like your song, it is very unlikely they are going to forward it for ANY opportunity. So there is no real point in entering it for anything. The 'staff' member is interpreting the opportunity providers request to the best of their understanding, but the reaction to your song would always vary from provider to provider if they were hearing it themselves. With that staff member in the way you often have one person holding the key to all the doors, which is ridiculous.
The only way I see that a process model such as Taxi's could ever work fairly, is if the process was moderated. Several screeners selected a larger list at a lower bar and then have the bands to be forwarded agreed on by all 3 of them. This moderation would eliminate a great deal of subjective bias. I suggested this to Taxi in great depth and all they did was respond to me about how fantastic their screeners were, obviously oblivious to the point I was trying to make that no second hand ear is infallible. The screeners were notorious for completely misinterpreting the meaning behind lyrics. Our lyrics 'I guess you never really lose what was never meant to be, I'm still lost in the middle.' They told me the words 'Lost in the middle' didn't adequately convey the songs theme of loss', completely overlooking that the song was actually about breaking up with someone you are in love with, when you didn't want to, hence 'Lost in the middle'. To be fair they had some very worthwhile and intelligent feedback if you were lucky enough to get a screener with a clue.
ok thanks for that, all excellent advice and information to consider. I'll never give up. I'm choosing my opportunities wisely as I certainly don't have any music finances, all my own money. I also use Music Xray and Sonicbids, both are excellent and cheap. Cheers!
There are big opportunities on Taxi, but the system is flawed. You have to be really lucky to be forwarded. I think I probably submitted 100+ entries over a year and would have only been forwarded around 5 times. Someone has told me that the Broadjam model is slightly flawed too in that opportunity providers receive a percentage on the submission fees for the opportunities they provide. This means theoretically that a music manager could post an opportunity on here and screen entries with no intention of ever submitting them, for no other reason than the monetary value. If it is true that Broadjam is revenue-sharing with the providers, then there should be conditions attached to fielding a successful applicant.
agree. lastly, is there a yearly fee on Taxi or monthly? do the submissions cost money as well?
I've read this thread twice now and am gonna comment. Firstly, Sam you guys are awesome in your own right and will be successful going in the direction you currently are. Sure it may take a little time but you are using the right approach, producers, touring etc. IMHO. You know what grips my shit about BJ - I have never seen a writer be selected for an artist from an opp. The only writers I have seen be successful have done so through their own hard work and perseverence through the usual channels ie publishers, labels etc and not through the opps on here. Which leads me to 2 conclusions, either the songs submitted are not good enough, which I think is bollox having listened to some great songs that would beat the crap outta half the rubbish in the charts these days; or the provider is doing nothing more than profiting from the listings that are released every week anyway, and our desire to succeed. Hence why I don't submit here - I select suitable publishers/labels for the tracks I want and take a chance on them checking me out. So far no money has been made, but I have had a few nibbles on the hook which is promising and doesn't cost me money. Now don't get me wrong, I like the principle of BJ, and I have met some great people who I have collaborated with to great results, and I have improved no end because of their input, critiques etc and my $5 a month is a small price to pay for that - but listings, Nah.
Well said Adam!!
I'm waiting for Roy to weigh in on this thread. Either confirm or correct what I said regarding the opportunity provider responsible for the listing receiving profit-sharing. Unlike Taxi where I removed us altogether from their site I wouldn't do that with Broadjam. But I find that even when I receive and email saying 'ROCK LISTING' I don't even bother reading it any more. I am honestly of the mindset now that the providers for the listing simply pick a few 'favourite' songs from the entries to fulfill their obligation to receive financial incentive and never actually pass anything on.
Very well said Adam, i don't want to believe it because sometimes i am hoping that i would get selected for one of these big time opportunities but when i think of it and i look at the results it seems mute, the more i observe the situation it seem like a money making platform and that's it, however every now and then i will pay 10.00 or 20.00 in hopes that i will land a 30k dollar commercial, you see they got me again lol.. i love this thread :)
You mean it hasn't been already??? LMAO
i'm all about co-writing! bring it on!!
Just saw this; interesting thread. I'd like to humbly submit my perspective (in no particular order). 1) Trust your gut. It's never wrong. It may not lead you the easy way every day, but it will always lead you the right way. 2) Know the difference between your gut, and your brain. The brain likes to make noise; some of it's worth hearing; some not. 3) The climb is always hardest near the top. 4) Eating an elephant is entirely possible provided you eat it one bite at a time. 5) A life spent following your dreams is never wasted. 6) Don't do anything for money (admittedly, easier said than done). Do it because you love it. The money almost always follows provided you followed rules 1-5. If you do it because you love it then money is the vehicle and not the destination. 7) Every "overnight success" took 10 years. Keep working at it. We all have a gift to give the world; don't ever let anyone or anything stand in the way of sharing that gift with as many people as you possibly can.
geee whiz==my song /car lot blues/is on the top 10--blues genre--thanxs--joe
Congratulations Joe.
Nice job Joe. You deserve it!!.
Congrats Joe. Way to go.
Hi Ron:thanks for the review of my song "Ashes in the Closet"it will be helpful asI write more music...take care, when I get a chance I will check out your music,when I get back to my home base..
You are welcome and good luck with your writing!!
Congratulations Adam. Keep up the great work.
Thanks Ron, I will - working on a new one as we speak about bull riding!! A bit tricky for a brit who only see's it on youtube etc, but fun LOL
I know what you mean. I'm working on one that I think would fit in the Pop section but I'm not real sure how to catogorize it. I hope to put it up this weekend.
Guitar Playin' Man is on the right track Adam. Your vocals start rough and build into a raspy "Bryan Adams" sound. I really enjoy this song!!! Keep me posted with the upgrades.
Will do Ron, glad you liked it - not bad for a one take wonder without warm up - (don't have time to warm up etc, have to bang it out before the kids realise what daddy's up to LOL)
Yahooooooo - Sony finally got back to me after 6-8 weeks and now my software is up and running - Look out BJammers
Yey that's awesome!! Shame it took so long but at least it's not holding you back any more :-)
Good deal!
Certainly isn't - unlimited tracks - heaven All I had to do in the end was to set up a new administrator account and reinstall under that account, how simple yet so damn frustrating was that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bring on the music Adam.
Hey Guys/Gals Finally posted a collab between Terese Millhouse and myself. Song called End of Me. Its kinda Evanesense/Nightwish style. Terese is singing, but we are open to offers of vocal assistance from any of the many talented ladies out there who can sing rock!! There is an alternate lyric for a male vocal which we are exploring currently. As always all comments welcome Ad
It had a dark, depressing, feel to it. If that is how the song was portrayed, you are spot on. I would like to hear it with a "screamer" vocal. Terese has nice vocals but not right for this type of song.
AD: sent you a response via the mail system
I've only sung it to give an idea of the tune so we can find a suitable vocalist. I'm definitely don't have the voice we're looking for with this song. Thanks guys :-)
Oh, also, Ron, I see you added "There You Go" to your playlist. I'm so glad you like that song. That's one of my favorite just old time, good old blues/R&B tunes. Thanks so much!
A new song for your perusal and as always comments - vocals are ruff as usual - bit low for me - but all my recent songs will be getting re-vamped shortly, when I stop writing for a bit!!! This one was written whilst sitting in a car park as I was waiting for one of my sons who was at a party in a kids play centre - If they broadcast their CCTV footage it would have been hilarious to see amiddle aged man singing his head off in his car (with the stereo turned off) Anyway, hope you enjoy
A very nice love song Adam!! The only thing I think needs changed is the title because He is saying " In my arms again" throuhgout the song. Keep writing, you have a great talent.
Good spot Ron, missed that one LOL - had a quick listen to that track you mentioned - I'll have a look at it once the BJ player starts working properly for me again!! Unless you want to email it privately??
Oh and I was playing with Nashville tunings on this one as well!!! First time for everything LOL
Ron---Thanks for your review on "Angels Are Asking Questions". You're right, it is a sad song, but I agree good to listen to. Tough cut, though, a divorce song.....I just keep pitching it. Someone needs to cut it---it will fit an artist's needs someday---keepin' the faith!! Thanks!
You are welcome, and I agree it is a marketable song. Good luck with pitching it!!
Ron, I see that you added it to your playlist. I'm very honored that you'd like to keep listening to it. Thanks so much!
Hi guys and gals - well, just to prove that an old man can still kick some mofo ass (LOL) I have uploaded a heavy metal track that is called Hey God. (number 4 on my list) It's kinda in a Nightwish style and gets a bit symphonic as it progresses. At the mo its in a ruff state, but please have a listen and as always, constructive comments are welcome. Thanks again Ad
Ad. Another classic that is bound for the Top 10. Sadly, I can related to the song. I have one called God of Thunder that I will record when the ashes settle. - N
Thanks N, well if you need some metal werk for it you know where to come ;o) - Ad
Adam, it is a little extreme for this Country Boy, but I can relate to the lyrics! At some point in our lives, I think everyone has asked for GODS help. I do have a song that could use your rock touch though.
fire away Ron, snd me an email and I'll pass on my private email address.
THANK YOU --THANK YOU--THANK YOU--TO ALL OF MY FRIENDS FOR WISHING ME A HAPPY 58th BIRTHDAY----FEBRUARY 19th--yikes--it is here again---THANXS AGAIN-----CHEERS__JOE.
May this be the best one ever but the least to those still to come. Happy birthday to you Joe.
Have a great day NJ, happy birthday
Happy Birthday Joe!! I wish you the best. Today is also my daughters Birthday, she is 14.
Happy Birthday Young Man
Happy happy birthday Joe! Here's to many more birthdays to come! All the best!
Happy Birthday Joe. & Many more..... Enjoy.
Have a great birthday Joe, you deserve it! Hugs from Houston and your country "star"!
Special birthday wishes from your friends Penny Frank and Char! cooooohawwww! Have a good one!
Happy Birthday Joe!!
Happy Birthday Joe and keep writing all that good music for the next 50 years!!!!
HAPPY VALENTINES DAY! YOU ARE ALL MY SWEETHEARTS! I HOPE YOUR DAY IS FILLED WITH LOVE!
Thank you Lori, I wish the same for you!!!
Thank you for your positive review of "stomping ground ", I checked out your new song " ten thousand miles " and I thought you did an excellent job, vocals, lyrics, everything worked very well together!! Keep up the great work.
Hey Ron! Thanks for listening and for your comments. But I am just a writer and have my work done by some great folks in Nashville. Ten Thousand Miles (Psalm 72:12-14) is performed by Jason Wyatt. Thanks again!
I understand, I play rhythm guitar just enough to lay the foundation for my lyrics and when I get enough money saved up, I go to a recording studio as well.
Chris, thank you for reviewing "Take A Chance". I listen to a lot of songs and music and try to find what makes them stand out from the rest and it is really hard because to me, most every song is telling the same old story just in different words. The only way to make it sound different is to have a top ten artist sing it and for the most part, they are not any better singers than a lot of the talent here on Broadjam. I'm not including myself in that perspective because I know I need work on my vocals and I am planning on having a few of my songs redone by a better vocalist, that is why I like the review section on this site. Thank you again, Ron Watkins.
Nice job with "Rat Race" Adam!!! What is your strong point as a musician, lyrics, lead or rythm guitar or all of it?
Cheers Ron, I prefer writing music to lyrics, thats why Todd's lyrics work so much better than mine could - I do play lead, rythm, bass, drums, keys, and I always write thinking of melody for vocals rather than which chords go nicely together - but my playing is not as neat and tidy as the guys in NAshville who recorded Rat Race :o)
good to know adam that you prefer to write music to lyrics. i have a wrote the lyrics of a Christmas song with a Killer hook, maybe we could collaborate on that if you would wish...
Sounds cool to me Des, oh and I should get round to the undefeated one in the next 2 weeks - had to go back to work :o(
no probs adam, i will email the lyrics to you now and then later on let me know what you think about song...
yes I enjoyed Rat Race Adam! Definitely sounds great and well produced! Should do well! Congrats!!
Hey Vic, I checked out "Even madmen wear slippers" and I thought it sounded pretty good but, I feel you need to put the drums in the background more or just delete them completely because they "steal" the show, I heard them more than the rest of the instruments. Nice music though!!! Ron Watkins.
Thanks Ron. This is my first mix of the tune. I will drop the Drums back a bit next mix. I dont think I'd want to delete them, but I am going to give the tune a listen without drums. You may be on to something here! I'm glad you liked the piece in general. Thanks! Vic
Ron....Wow...I gave a listen without drums and I must say....not bad at all. Actually, it was ral good! I will mix a drumless version as well and send it to you as soon as I can. Thanks for the advice!
I think its all good! I would post both with and with out? :) You Rock! Lori
Thanks Lori. You Rock more!
Thank you for reviewing "Take A Chance". I am glad it was a fun song to listen to. I am still in the process of improving my songs and I will take your advice into consideration. Broadjam is great for getting ideas from other artists. Thank you, Ron Watkins.
Lou, I appreciate your review of "Stomping Ground". I am working on better vocals so I can enter it in some of the opportunities Broadjam offers. Thank you, Ron Watkins.
GOOD PLAN ,BIG RON
I listened to the backing track then the vocal track for "17" and I am very impressed with both. Really nice job, keep 'em coming. Ron Watkins.
Thanks Ron, much appreciated.